Legion: Nazi Symbolism

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Gravitas

I made no false link. I was asking if there was such a link.

If this is how you ask, I wonder what a statement would look like in your mind.

Originally Posted by Gravitas

along with your official name of Legion (which has its SS connotations)

And what thread have you been reading? I've acknowledged what many of you have clarified for me, that your symbol is indeed derived from ancient Rome. I only say that regardless of intent, one has always to be aware of the multiple connotations of each symbol, Nazism being on of them for that which you chose.

The fact that we are aware of a connotation is one thing, but when you have a slogan in latin, another slogan with was that of the Roman Legion, and a symbol with a history as that of the Roman Legion, the gathered connotation of this would only be offensive to someone hunting for a reason.
Those who hunt for reasons to take offense will always find them.
You did.

[Waywatcher]

Anywho, thanks for making my time at work far more interesting than it otherwise would have been.

You've got your answer, however, as well as the immediate ire of much of our community. I hope your inquiry was worth it, though I would counsel doing more research before asking such inflammatory questions in the future, wherever you go in life.

We wish you luck on your search for a guild elsewhere.

The watcher.

[Zjozz]

Originally Posted by Tiddy

BTW, arent you fuckers sposed to be killing firemaw? Yall are gonna make Gren cry!!!

just did sir, in horrible lag!

[Crytical]

Now, before I say anything, bear in mind that I'm not "taking sides in this ..erm..discussion".

Honestly, if you take away any fore-knowledge of our Guilds history or beliefes or basis, I can see where the OP actually might feel the need to ask the question he did. To be completely honest, I thought it was a Nazi symbol clevery adapted when I first joined Legion. Of course, before I made myself to look a bit foolish, I did a bit of research and discovered the true basis of this Guild. Needless to say, I was absolutely proud of who Legion were and what they represented, and terrifically glad that my fears were unfounded.

But again, like I stated earlier, I can see where the OP might have gotten the notion, and my kudos to him for having that large set of testicles he has to ask the possibly-offensive question he did.

<3

-Angel

[Uuisa]

Originally Posted by Waywatcher

The Nazi party borrowed a lot of symbolism from ancient history. In fact, the swastika itself is derived from an ancient symbol for good luck (4 "L's" bound together to mean "Luck," "Life," "Love," and "Light."
The watcher.

Pfft someone always beats me to posting the only thing I ever have to say! Thx WW!

And seriously...why is everyone so mad? It was only a question...yes a stupid one but still heh.

[Bociwen]

Originally Posted by Waywatcher

I don't often get a chance to wax intellectual and flame someone at the same time! This is historic!

The watcher.

P.S.:

Wait...did he initially post his app for the WoW division as well...? That takes some serious chutzpah, my friend. o.O

Now, he hasnt that I am aware of, however he did state that he came across VtS in the mannoroth forums while browsing for a guild to join.

However, you *can* be a part of legion's community without being in a given game, its his very presence as one of us that I oppose, regardless of what game he may or may not play.

[Relifex]

Just one thing though if you look at the topic you write "Legion: Nazi symbolism" do you see a question mark in there? That alone kinda constate what you were after.

[Trelf]

Originally Posted by sike

Once you pass our tests you'll find out who we really are.. only once you reach the inner circle of the legion.

No test, just Cybor!

[Gravitas]

Originally Posted by Bociwen

You know, my initial reaction to your call of hypocrite was one of iritation, a touch of anger, and a desire to just do everything in my power to make you feel as peeved as I do.

I've been relaxed all afternoon. I find this thread to be very informative and enjoyable, despite antagonisms.

But here's the deal; you walked in here, and instead of asking the simple question "hey legion, where did you guys get your motto/logo from?" you decide instead, to be joe smartypants and make your assumption. You even go so far as to apologize, in advance, for the insult you decided to throw at this entire community. Not only does this not even begin to justify the comments, but it also shows that you already knew your assumption to be untrue, yet you went ahead and decided to show us just how ignorant you can be.

Your logic is confined pal.

You're essentially stating that I may only ask questions so long as they are in the most general sense. My reason for asking this question though was to confirm or deny my suspicion. The corollary of any answer to my question would be the meaning.

I can tell you right now that this shows to me you are not the quality of person we should affiliate ourselves with; furthermore I will do everything in what power I have to see that you do not become part of this community, as I fear the implications and trouble your lack of forsight and common sense may bring us.

I had no burgeoning desire whatsoever to join this guild in specific, so I couldn't care less what efforts you go to.

As for your assumptions of my character, Freud, good luck with that. You're certainly right that I'm completely qualityless, unlike those raving hyperbolists and sophists clearly not in this thread.

[Relifex]

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[Anunnak]

Just in case you apply

VETO

[Crytical]

uze smalerr werds 4 meh plz :(

Hate having to get out my dictionary everytime I see a big word :(

[Toxi]

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[Tiddy]

OK, a serious post (sorta) and then I'll stop spamming this thread.


Bro, did you even consider that maybe there are people in this community that hate what Nazi Germany stood for just as much as you do? Do you think Jewish people are the only ones that have a right to be 'overly' offended by such things?

The majority if this guild, and community is European. WW2 impacted their way of life a helluvalot more than it did Canada, or even the USA for that matter. The sad part isnt that you asked the question... well yes it is, but the saddest part is you are trying to defend your question as if it was the correct thing to do just because you are Jewish. You, sir, were not in the right... not even close.

There are people here that get more offended by this topic than you do, so just because you are Jewish doesnt give you the right to accuse them of being Nazis, which is basically wtf you did. You do realize this right? You not only indirectly accused the members of the WoW guild, but every single member of this gaming community of being a Nazi. You sir, are an egocentric maggot eating fucktard, and if you were my neighbor I'd kill your fucking dog.

All in all, you are probably a troll. If not, you are one thick headed mother fucker.

[Zjozz]

Originally Posted by Relifex

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i was waiting for that one hahaha

[Gravitas]

Originally Posted by Crytical

Now, before I say anything, bear in mind that I'm not "taking sides in this ..erm..discussion".

Honestly, if you take away any fore-knowledge of our Guilds history or beliefes or basis, I can see where the OP actually might feel the need to ask the question he did. To be completely honest, I thought it was a Nazi symbol clevery adapted when I first joined Legion. Of course, before I made myself to look a bit foolish, I did a bit of research and discovered the true basis of this Guild. Needless to say, I was absolutely proud of who Legion were and what they represented, and terrifically glad that my fears were unfounded.

But again, like I stated earlier, I can see where the OP might have gotten the notion, and my kudos to him for having that large set of testicles he has to ask the possibly-offensive question he did.

<3

-Angel

Thank you Crytical. This is how I hoped my question would be embraced by the community. And even if I did research the eagle symbol to a great degree, there would remain no conclusive information to tell me how exactly this specific party means to use this symbol without asking.

[Relifex]

I check out the manno forum way to much =(